Survivor: Carlsbad Caverns - first post updated

[Sam]

The first game took place in Summer '04 in the Carlsbad Caverns. The website can be seen here: p196.ezboard.com/bsurvivorcarlsbadcaverns however all confessionals, tribal councils, art, etc has been deleted. =( I'll post here however some things still on my computer.


You can also discuss the game and post things you remember about it or post images or confessionals you might have saved.


Here is the Tribal Council Voting History:





Here's one of the logos I made when I first was trying to come up with one. I made a whole bunch of other ones (some better, some worse), until Ethan rescued me and made the one up top for me. =)






I made this image as one of the special features I did for a Tribal Council. I think it was a Sunstone/Adularia TC. Though actually the image says "tc2" so maybe it was episode 2. =)






I'm going to post lots more images and tribal councils and things I remember as well as the days go on:













































































The game began with 2 tribes of 7 and one tribe of 6. Fictional characters Caroline and Troy were created to boost each of the two main tribes' total to 8 so they were not suspicious. Both left for different reasons before the game began.


The main theme of this game showed itself in the Four Ambassador Meetings. In the first meeting, one person of CERN and Royal (Hector and Ross) met in a faux-traditional meeting of the 2 tribes. In Ambassador Meeting Two, one member of each tribe also left... to go visit the Secret Tribe, which had been covertly competing against the original two tribes the entire game. Jeff and Heather met the Secret Tribe, while the other tribemates had to solve a series of clues to enter a password to find out the secret. The 3rd Meeting was when Secret got to go to the original two tribe's camps.


The CERN Academy - royal purple

Alex
Doug
Heather
Hector
Kevin
Samantha
Will R.


The Royal Society - royal blue

Changhui
Jeff
Jerry
John
Kaitie
Kira
Ross


The Secret Tribe - light blue

Adam
Connie
Matt
Nicole
Preston
Will M.


Although the tribes met in Episode #4, it wasn't until Episode #7 that they swapped into two tribes, each tribe dividing in half. Each tribe symbolized a stone that represented the Sun or the Moon. (Adularia literally means "Moonstone")


The Adularia Tribe - silver

Changhui
Kevin
Heather
Matt
Ross
Will R.


The Sunstone Tribe - bronze

Connie
Doug
Hector
Jeff
Kira
Will M.


The tribes merged at 10.

The Celestine Tribe - gold

Changhui
Connie
Doug
Heather
Hector
Kevin
Kira
Ross
Will M.
Will R.

[Ross]

Yellow peeps!!!

[Changhui]

Yellow~ Oh my god! I literally screamed out when I saw the site is open!!!!!!! can't believe it's been an year and a half since we struggled through Sam's crazy challenges and each other...Ah~ the good old days~ Can't wait for the all stars!!!

[Matt O.]

Niether can I!!

[Ross]

Does everybody use the same AIM screen names?

[Matt O.]

I do.

[Will]

mine sure is.

[Ross]

Changhui are you still doing videos?

Where is the rest??? CERN is still yet to be represented...

[Lisa]

Hey everyone......I don't know if some of you know that I played Kira in Carlsbad Caverns......my real name is Lisa and I am a stay at home mom who lives in Wisconsin. I would like to get to know everyone of you that I have played with in this game as me, please add me to your aim if you want to. I have talked with a few of you!

I would really love to play in the All-Stars since I took 2nd place in Carlsband Caverns, and I will be applying but it's all up to Sam if he wants me to play as Lisa or Kira or not play at all.

Can I have everyone else's opinions on this, because I shouldn't be discriminated against for playing an alias?

[ktb]

lisa, dont neglect the MP forum <3.

[Chuck]

I definately think you deserve a chance to come back for All Stars. You've made an effort to apologize and I think you should be given another chance. I don't think its that big of an ordeal that you played as an alias but thats my opinion. This isn't my game, what I say doesn't matter. I definately think you deserve a spot in All Stars.

[Changhui]

Hey Ross!!!!!!!!!!!!Yeah, I still do videos~ I am so torn about whether to apply or not! I really would like to play this game again, but I am so busy right now with my school and work!!!!!! Also, can I make the video if I am a contestant? Damn~ so hard to decide

Hey Kira(Lisa)! What's up??? I don't think it's that big a deal either! For christsake some of us even changed our gender (myself included ) to play this game. How are you?

[Hector]

Hello there. I've been extremely busy with work (I'm still there actually) but I hope to catch up with you guys on the weekend. My aim is still the same, stardragonman and I also have a yahoo and msn account.

I applied for All-Stars and can't wait to see if I'll be accepted or not.

Edit:I'm Hector, by the way.

[Ross]

Hui: Maybe you could do the same for SCC... Play then the video came after you won/all players were revealed

Did Lisa really play as Braden?

Hello Hector!!!

[Brett]

I definately think you deserve a chance to come back for All Stars.

As which character will she play? Or... can she play all of her aliases?! That would be [glow=red,2,300]hot[/glow].

Lisa... Braden.... Your mom....

[Lisa]

Sorry to disappoint people but I would prefer to play as myself "Lisa"!

And not Kira.

[Sam]

Holy shite!


I was searching for Will R. and found some cached pages that Google had taken of Carlsbad Caverns before it got deleted. Then I looked around and found that a few forums were restored. =)


Here's the list of forums I've found so far:

Tribal Council 16 -

p196.ezboard.com/fsurvivorcarlsbadcavernsfrm157 (I'd copy it here but I'd have to fix all the html tags)

Tribal Council 10 -

p196.ezboard.com/fsurvivorcarlsbadcavernsfrm116

Tribal Council 4 -

p196.ezboard.com/fsurvivorcarlsbadcavernsfrm76


Tribal Council 1 -

p196.ezboard.com/fsurvivorcarlsbadcavernsfrm12


Visitor's Center -

p196.ezboard.com/fsurvivorcarlsbadcavernsfrm77


Admin Stuff-

p196.ezboard.com/fsurvivorcarlsbadcavernsfrm32

p196.ezboard.com/fsurvivorcarlsbadcavernsfrm34

p196.ezboard.com/fsurvivorcarlsbadcavernsfrm33

IC 15 Doug and Willard -

p196.ezboard.com/fsurvivorcarlsbadcavernsfrm130



Here's the format sheet:

SURVIVOR: Carlsbad Caverns Format Sheet


Main Theme – SURVIVOR: Carlsbad Caverns will be the first entry in exploring a new shift in the Survivor dynamic. The shift known as “the Surprise Tribe” can be played out in many many different fashions. This layout will be the simple addition of a “surprise” third tribe, that exists unbeknownst to the regular two tribes who believe they are the only ones playing the game. This third tribe will be playing Survivor the same length as the others and will be voting out players equally. After a certain amount of time, the two tribes will explore the environment they live in and “discover” this third tribe, prompting them to assimilate the new tribe into the game.



The Layout:

We begin with:

7 players in Tribe A.
7 players in Tribe B.
6 players in Tribe C.

for a total of 20 Survivors. The tribes will be chosen by me personally, so that the perceived participation levels of the tribes are even. I may put those I believe more capable of keeping a secret in tribe C.

We will tell Tribes A and B that we did not receive enough applications so they do not wonder why it is 7v7 instead of 8v8.

Tribe C will consist of 6 players. It has one less as an offset to having a greater chance of winning at immunity challenges. Tribe C will be kept secret. Their forums and TC forum and camp forum will be made invisible to all but the members of Tribe C. They will be told that they are a surprise tribe and that in some point they will meet the other tribes. But they must keep their existence a secret. IT IS VITALLY IMPORTANT THAT THIS SECRET IS KEPT. This means we will have to check every forum to make sure it is only visible to the right people. The secret tribe will not be able to post on the message board except at their forum. This is vital. Tribe C has no knowledge of who else is playing the game.

IMMUNITY: Tribes A and B will be fighting it out for immunity. A or B will win the challenge and will win immunity. HOWEVER: Tribe C will also be secretly competing in this immunity challenge. If Tribe C defeats either Tribe A or Tribe B then Tribe C is immune. Only if Tribe C loses to both tribes will they go to Tribal Council. This means that Tribe C has a 2/3 chance of being safe. This is why they have less people, so a merge will happen equally.

Immunity Challenges 1-5 must be made specially to accommodate this situation. The immunity challenges will have to be on a points per person basis unless some other fair method can be conceived. You see, if it is a “first tribe to finish wins” challenge, then how would we know if Tribe C defeated the losing tribe or not? The losing tribe would not have finished and we could not measure this against Tribe C. So, we will either have to have a points game on a per person basis or we will have to have each tribe compete secretly then announce the time results at the end. This will be tough to do, but it’ll have to work. =)

Immunity Challenge 6 will be a tribal free for all 24 hour fighting challenge to increase tensions between the tribes before the merge. The first merge will be after 6 IC’s have passed.

DYNAMICS: Tribes A and B will be fighting it out normally at 7v7 for six ICs. In the event that one tribe goes to their 6th straight TC making it 7v2, the tribe of 7 will vote out one of the 2. This is rare. Tribe C will be kept secret and can have a varying number of Tribal Councils. For this reason it is not known how many people will be at the first merge! There is a 9/10 probability that Tribe C will have 3, 4, or 5 members on it, any of which is ideal. In the extremely rare scenario that Tribe C loses 5 or 6 immunity challenges, the voted out of Tribe C will choose who goes. This will most likely not happen.

After the third IC, one member from A and B will be selected as an ambassador to meet with the other tribe and talk. They just meet and talk but stay on the regular tribes.

After the fourth IC, there will be an “Explorers Challenge.” The person from each tribe A and B that wins this Explorers Challenge will go… exploring. ^_^ They will be told they are doing an ambassadors thing again. Instead, they will find a secret tribe that has been playing the same game of Survivor for as long as they have.

The Secret Tribe will be waiting in a chat room, knowing that they are going to be greeted by representatives from both tribes. The person who won the Explorers Challenge first will enter the chat room first, thinking they are to meet the other tribe. Instead they will stumble on a new tribe. Hilariousness ensues. Next, the other Explorer will enter and they will all talk. When the Explorers leave, the Secret Tribe will be revealed and will compete in the Immunity.

After this fifth IC, the tribes will fight it out for one immunity. Two tribes will go to Tribal Council after the sixth IC.

THE FIRST MERGE: At this point either 11, 12, or 13 people remain. I don’t know which. Therefore the three tribes will meet and will RANDOMLY be divided into two tribes. The tribes will either be 6-5, 6-6, or 7-6. Each person will choose a number and that number goes to a pre-selected tribe. Hopefully the two tribes will be comprised of roughly equal numbers of each of the previous three tribes.

IC’s 7-9 will be normal, two tribe immunity challenges where the two tribes fight it out for one immunity.


THE SECOND MERGE: Exactly three IC’s *after* the first merge took place (this being at 8, 9, or 10 people left respectively) will the final merge take place. All players will merge into one tribe. Immunity challenges will be individual. The game will proceed normally.

One by one the remaining Survivors will be voted out until just three remain.

At the final three, one person will win individual immunity and be the sole vote to make the last member of our 7 person jury.

After the 7 person jury grills the Final Two with questions and comments, they will vote for one of the remaining two to win SURVIVOR: Carlsbad Caverns.

Note: If extreme situations happen such as one tribe winning or losing all the Immunity Challenges, I will take appropriate actions to reduce the number on that tribe but it will be purely mathematical and have nothing to do with specific players.

[Hector]

Something funny I remembered...

There was a thread in the Royal Society where you guys were trying to guess our professions, and the answers were hilarious. I think Jon guessed I was a salesman, Will R. was a driver, etc etc.

Where is Jon anyway? I hope he comes in here.

[Doctorfish828]

Hey guys..It's Doug!!!

I haven't played in any Survivor games since Carlsbad Caverns..Nothing could ever match the experience I had during that game..Can't wait to apply for all-stars..I really hope I make it.

And yes..I still have the same AIM name: djfresh828

[Lisa]

Sam should take everyone that wants to play and have this HUGE game!

Hey Doug, I am so looking forward to talking to you again! Ross and I missed talking to you!

[Sam]

Yay, Doug's here! Glad I got a hold of you and that you want to play, I can't wait. =)


Will R. replied back! Unfortunately he said something about being busy or some such... hopefully his schedule will free up.

From 9/25/2004 :

Aeternum1021 (7:14:45 PM): was carlsbad the first one in the series?
Sorin the Seeker (7:16:01 PM): it was the first really big game with its own board i've done in awhile
Aeternum1021 (7:16:24 PM): oh i see
Aeternum1021 (7:16:50 PM): So All-Stars won't be going down for a while then, eh? :-\
Sorin the Seeker (7:16:58 PM): a year at the very least -_-
Sorin the Seeker (7:17:14 PM): if it gets that far.... i hate looking for apps
Aeternum1021 (7:17:53 PM): yeah without enough decent players involved it's not always worth all the effort
Aeternum1021 (7:18:19 PM): better to accumulate enough for a cast you know will be good
Sorin the Seeker (7:19:09 PM): yeah
Aeternum1021 (7:19:42 PM): but hey, if the time comes, i'll be interested ;-)


Must... find... Will R....


We have lots of people who live in Boston... if I had his last name that would really help. *sigh*

[Ryan]

Let's call him Will Robinson.

[Matt O.]

Will M and Connie need to play/apply as well.

And even Kevin!!

[Will]

i may or may not have sent in a very sexy application

[Jamie]

Boston represent! (Where is Scott!?)

[Valerie]

I remember seeing this, following it...wanting to apply to MP but didn't know how to use ezBoard and wasn't really in the mood to try and teach myself...finally applied for Paradise and sucked. Oh well.

[Ross]

Too bad not all forums can be restored.

@hector: Guessing the profesions was funny. It was all John's idea and I enjoyed it! I guess that happens when you lose twice in a row while being in a small tribe of five.

*Hands a spork to Valerie*

[Matt O.]

Yay! Will M applied!!!

[Valerie]

Haha, thanks Ross

[Ross]

Where the hell is Heather???!!! And maybe John's coming back...?

Hello Doug Eheheheheh... eheh...