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y17 tc feelings « Thread Started on Mar 11, 2006, 9:36pm »
Like I said in Kevin W's final words, I think I should take FULL responsibility for the sheep . Although I don't know if they were absent if it would have been other people who took on the sheep roles. It's just so sad. =( So sad to watch other people just... just willingly waste months and months of their lives so that someone who does not care about them can vote them out whenever they feel like it. None of these people have an excuse, either. Not one. They've been personally burned and yet they still hang on to the people that burned them?
Maybe this Survivor game has turned them into such feelingless drones. It's just really really sad.
In case it isn't obvious, the Masters are MattO/Tyler. I actually admire their gameplay.
The Most Devoted Sheep in the History of Survivor: Jen
Jen. Do I need to say anything else than the fact that you will defend to the death the players who BLINDSIDED your own husband?!?
Here's a typical Jen strategy conversation:
Tyler- What do you think about the vote? Jen- I really like Jamie, she's been such a good friend to me. I'd like to vote out Katie I guess. Tyler- The vote has changed to Jamie. Jen- That's who I was thinking.
Jen has on multiple occassions changed her vote completely in any direction at the mere suggestion of M/T. That conversation has literally played out multiple times. She will vote for anybody at the merest suggestion for no reason whatsoever. She has no mind of her own.
The Middle Sister Sheep - Stacy
1. Paradise - sheeped the whole game. 2. Asteria Part 1 - sheeped all of Lisu w/ no strategy 3. Asteria Part 2 - sheep status
It is impossible to be in alliance with MattO/Tyler and not know that you have no control over anything. Stacy will vote out anybody, no matter what. Her best friend from Lisu who voted with her to the end? Sure I'll vote for him. At this point she has become yet another of MT's utter pawns, and thinks nothing but serving her masters. And it's not like she isn't presented with other options. Although, I just did read through her recent confessionals. And they show she is at least considering other options. This is a good thing. Whether she will act on any such options remains to be seen, since her options are quickly dwindling. She also seems to think that she can grab Jen (or so she, "*hopes*") to get out M/T at the end. *cough*. Still, she gets points over the other sheep for at least considering revolting. Because right now she is just sitting by watching all of her possible allies/friends getting voted out, one after the other: Jamie, Lew, Kevin W., Ryan probably soon. And she didn't even lift a finger to suggest anythign else. Seeing as she blindly accepted the betrayal of her best pal Jamie I highly doubt she will make any moves in the future herself. And M/T will cut her at the first opportunity.
Newly Inducted Sheep - Katie
Probably the saddest sheep of them all. =( This sheep actually pretended to be a smart thinker. At least... maybe for the first few days. She was the ringleader of the Great Debacle - the Zaza/Ovambo merged which doomed her allies. Not just once, but twice she was burned by her friends which had just engineered her entire tribe's demise. Having been twice lied to by allies, you'd think maybe she wouldn't trust them anymore.
And I really did too. I really did. Not to mention watching those "allies" lie/betray/blindside multiple people before them.
But no. She just threw her First Day alliance, her most solid alliance, her best friendship, the one she promised time and time again to never vote out into the fire. All for a shot at fifth place with people who had manipulated and destroyed her two times before. (three if you count Mana where tyler backstabbed katie again).
It sounds so unbelievably sad when laid out like that. And it really is. An opportunity to be Fifth Sheep, which she probably will be butchered beforehand. For that she paid her most valuable price. You can not be anymore sheeplike than that.
MattO and Tyler's Herd:
Freshman Sheep: Katie Brainless Sheep: Jen Careless Sheep: Stacy
Already Led to the Slaugher: Lew, Jamie, Jose, Garrey, Valerie
I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human.
Sometimes I think that I'm not any good at all. Sometimes I wonder why, why I'm even here at all. But then you assure me: I'm a little more than useless... When I think that I can't do this, you promise me that I'll get through this and do something right, do something right for once...
I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human.
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Re: y17 tc feelings « Reply #5 on Jun 24, 2006, 10:32am »
I think "sheepiness" (he says, hopefully, without suggesting that he thought anybody in particular was a sheep) tends to crop up more frequently in games of a larger magnitude such as this one. Despite it being all-stars, with such a long road to the end, many people are going to be biding their time until the end regardless. Also, with many early boots determined by past performances or power clashes, the sheep types seem to me to be more likely to be herded than slaughtered early, as I think they tend to do to some degree in 16-player all-stranger games.
Joined: Dec 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 59 Location: Texas
Re: y17 tc feelings « Reply #6 on Jun 24, 2006, 1:54pm »
I'm inclined to agree with you ryan, in most cases, but some people like matto can play the power player very well and never get voted out (even though he came close a few times haha-- it didn't happen) You just have to be able to recognize the patterns in the game and how people are going to play/react to things that you do.
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Re: y17 tc feelings « Reply #7 on Jun 24, 2006, 2:58pm »
It's all about being able to adapt to your surroundings. If everyone is jockeying to be a leader, sit back, and if everyone is trying to hide, then take control.
But once you assume a role, it's hard to get out of that role. It's smart to downplay it, but still retain that role when other people of the same role are thrown into your game.
The only time you drop being a tribal leader is at the final merge, because leaders aren't needed, but you still need to lead the alliance.
Ryan's statement is very true in a lot of regards towards sheep.
I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human.
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